Thursday Boot Company Vanguard Review: Is American Made Better?

Founded in 2014, Thursday Boot Company is one of the newest boot companies on the scene and they’ve been disruptive, to say the least. It was founded by Connor Wilson and Nolan Walsh who had a dream of making the perfect hybrid boot at a low mark-up.

As the years passed the company exploded in popularity as their hybrid dress/work boots became a fixture on the boot scene. Less clunky than a work boot but tougher than a dress shoe, the name of Thursday’s game is versatility and value.

I named their flagship Captain boot as one of my five favorite boots of all time, and since then a ton of people have been asking me to take a look at their line of Vanguard boots, which are completely made in the United States.

I took the chance to also try out their new Rugged and Resilient leather and I really beat the crap out of them. I took these boots on a lengthy trip around Jordan and Lebanon, wearing them in desert hikes, archaeological digs, and dancing at clubs.

Here’s how they held up.

[Like what you see? Check out the different leathers available at Thursday Boot Company.]

Thursday Vanguard Boot First Glance

  • Service booth aesthetic
  • Silhouette is dress boot/work boot hybrid
  • Outdoorsy leather
  • Made in America

The Vanguard is a bit reminiscent of that nice classic World War 2 service boot in the way it looks both refined and rugged. This boot takes Thursday’s M.O. of combining the silhouette of a dress boot and a work boot, but it’s not quite as slim as the Captain. It’s a teeny tiny bit less dressy in that regard, while still looking a million times more sophisticated than your standard, bulbous work boots like Red Wing’s Iron Ranger or Wolverine’s 1000 Mile. It’s much more versatile and easy to dress up than your standard daily beaters.

That said, while this may be different for some of their other leathers they use for the Vanguard, this particular Burnt Copper leather is, well, pretty rugged. I’ll discuss this leather more in the next section but in short, it’s a leather that’s made for adventuring.

[Related: The 10 Best Dress Boots]

thursday vanguards river

As I wore them in, the leather definitely got some character but this leather really is designed for looking better and better as it gets more worn in. This is a boot that looks like it has stories to tell, which is a quality I think most guys really value and which I think is especially hard to find in shoes you can comfortably pair with khakis and a button down.

From start to finish these shoes are made in America, and it’s important to note that while some companies use that label just to say that they shipped in pre-made uppers and pre-made soles from overseas, stitched them together in America, and called it a day, Thursday goes further. The laces are made in the US, the shanks are made in the US, the eyelets are made in the US, even the poron in the sole is made in the US — which means it’s slightly different to the poron in the Captains.

In fact, while at first glance, these may look a lot like the Captain, there are several important differences that you should know about that go beyond the surface.

[See my comparison of Thursday Captain vs Wolverine 1000 Mile!]

thursday vanguards leather

Thursday Vanguard Boot Leather

  • Burnt Copper is a “Rugged & Resistant” leather
  • Vegetable tanned and oil tanned
  • More “workboot” type leather
  • 1.7mm thick

Once again, this leather is called Burnt Copper it’s part of their “Rugged and Resilient” line, a line of leathers that you can also get in the Captain or the President or a few of their other boots. Note that the Vanguard does come in other leathers, most of which are from Chicago’s Horween Leather Company.

I’ve wanted to try this Burnt Copper for a while, because it does have a really distinctive look. When they came out of the box, you could immediately tell that the leather was tough and that it would get prettier as it got uglier.

This is primarily vegetable tanned and it’s also oil tanned as well, which might bring to mind Red Wing’s leather, since most of their Heritage boots are oil tanned. Thursday told me that the idea with this particular leather is to have a similar look to the kind of matte, oil tanned leathers you see in a lot of American work boots, the sort of leathers you can really beat up and know that it’s just going to make the leather look cool, not ruined.

Now, the leather isn’t quite as chunky as some work boots like Wolverine, which is about 2 millimeters thick. This is closer to 1.7 millimeters, but that’s still a lot thicker than dress shoes — which are often about 1 millimeter thick — and there’s not really any difference in that 0.3 millimeters as far as durability goes. Instead the difference is that this marginally thinner leather makes it a bit more versatile, a bit less clunky, a bit easier to blend in in urban environments.

thursday vanguards boards

Thursday Vanguard Leather Care

  • Very little care required
  • Brush regularly with horsehair brush
  • Neatsfoot oil could be useful for occasional conditioning

When I brought these back to New York City, they were absolutely covered in sand and dust and grime from my travels, but once again this leather doesn’t need babying. After giving it a brush down with a horsehair brush I spoke with a representative at Thursday to see if I should go and get some saddle soap or something to make sure I didn’t mess up the leather when I cleaned it. Their suggestion? Just use some water on a rag, don’t worry about it too much.

There’s a similar approach to conditioning, in fact if you can believe it, I was told that this leather doesn’t really need any conditioning at all, which is the same thing you’ll hear about some other leathers from Thursday like their Terracotta leather. This Burnt Copper is indeed imbued with oil, and oil tanned leather just doesn’t need as much conditioning as something dressier like Chromexcel. It’s quite moist and quite resilient to drying out as it is. In fact, the wording Thursday used with me was “that’s the point of the leather,” that you don’t need to worry that much about it.

If you do worry about it, or if you feel the leather getting dry, or if the boots are like a year or two old and you just think it’s time? Since this is oil tanned leather I think some neatsfoot oil would work just fine for moisturizing the leather, especially because it doesn’t get really deep into the pores. This makes it a good option if you don’t want to darken the leather and you really want to get a nice visible patina as it ages.

If you’re not bothered by darkening, you can always use some mink oil, or maybe Saphir’s Renovateur if you want to go a waxier route.

[See my comparison of mink oil and neatsfoot oil here!]

thursday vanguards sole

Thursday Vanguard Sole

  • Outsole similar to Dianite
  • Slim profile
  • Cork midsole
  • Poron insole

This sole looks like Dainite, which is a pretty fancy rubber used in pretty expensive boots, but this is Thursday’s own rubber sole.

Dainite is really popular because it’s a really good balance of durability, grip, flexibility, and aesthetics, and I think Thursday’s rubber really performs about as well. Some say it takes a tad longer to break, in but I didn’t notice much of a difference and it also maintains a slim look when viewed from the side.

After the rubber outsole there’s a cork midsole and a poron insole. Poron is an air-permeable material often used in sneaker brands, and it’s also anti microbial, which means it can help with foot stink. As I mentioned, this poron comes from America and it’s a tiny bit less bouncy than the poron you get in Thursday’s classic Captain boot, plus the Vanguard does not have the sneaker-like EVA comfort strip that the Captain and many of Thursday’s other boots are known for.

So what does that mean for the comfort?

thursday vanguards toecaps

Thursday Vanguard Fit & Comfort

  • Slimmer last than Captain
  • Leather a little stiff at last
  • No EVA comfort strip
  • Feels more like a traditional workboot
  • Fully leather lined

The most important thing to note here is that with most Thursday boots you’re advised to go down a half size from your true size. So I’m about an 11.75 on a Brannock device, I’m a size 12 in most sneakers, and when a boot fits true to size I’m always an 11.5. My Captain boots are a size 11 so I went with an 11 in the Vanguards.

The thing is that Vanguards are made on a different last, which is a bit slimmer than the Captains. While I love wearing these boots with thin socks, I would have preferred to go true to size.

That said, Thursday is constantly updating and upgrading their boots and their last may change. Honestly, it’s something that’s a bit frustrating as a reviewer. For now, the last is a bit narrow and I’d go true to size.

vanguard rear

This rugged leather is also stiffer than the Thursday Chrome I got my Captains in. That’s not to say I had a nightmarish break in, but it did take a few days to soften up. But I wouldn’t expect much less from a leather this tough.

Another thing is that this shoe doesn’t have that sneaker like, EVA comfort strip you get in the Captain. That doesn’t make it uncomfortable, it just feels more like a traditional boot in that regard. That said, it does still have poron so it’s certainly better at softness and shock absorption than a lot of its competitors, especially the Iron Ranger and Chippewa’s Service Boot, which feel like you’re walking on hardwood.

thursday vanguards heel

Thursday Vanguard Price

A pair of these will set you back $265.

That’s pretty darn cheap for Goodyear welted, American made footwear of this quality. Yes, they’re a little pricier than the $199 Captains and Presidents, and to be clear, I don’t think those boots are inferior to the Vanguard. I don’t feel that a shoe is necessarily bad quality just because it’s made overseas and the Captain is a good example of that. (See also Grant Stone’s Diesel Boot.)

But if your priority is keeping money in the U.S., then the Vanguard has got you covered. Yes, it’s a tad pricier but this is still much less than I would expect to pay for a boot like this. They’re tough as nails, they didn’t take any damage while I’ve been wearing them in and I really wore them hard, they’re comfortable, they’ve got a steel shank, they’re leather lined, and they’re versatile. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone handed these boots to me and told me they cost a hundred dollars more.

thursday vanguards front

The Takeaway


  • Tough leather and construction
  • Leather doesn’t really need any care
  • Versatile
  • Anti microbial poron insole
  • Sole has a great mixture of function and fashion
  • Free returns
  • Inexpensive


  • No wider sizes available
  • Last is a little narrow
  • Burnt Copper isn’t super dressy
  • Pricier than other Thursday Boots
  • No EVA strip

thursday vanguards cobblestone

They’re also direct to consumer, so unless you’re in New York City and can visit their store or their showroom, you just have to order a pair online and hope they fit. I can see that being a downside, but they offer free returns so it’s not a huge gamble.

I like these boots a lot. They’re tough enough to beat around but they fit really well into urban environments. The Rugged and Resilient leather isn’t as versatile as the glossier Thursday Chrome, but it really confers an air of adventure that I think a lot of guys will like, especially since it requires practically no care. These are boots for guys that just want to be able to beat up their shoes, wear them out on the town, and not agonize about whether or not they’ve conditioned them this week.

With the right outfits, this boot can go far.

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21 thoughts on “Thursday Boot Company Vanguard Review: Is American Made Better?”

  1. Nick, thanks for this new review… I asked the similar question before, related to your Captain review: do Thursday boots have a gusseted tongue? This is (IMO) an important feature that is often overseen. It not only keeps out dirt and water, but it also effectively prevent the tongue from moving sideways. This happened with my AE Higgins Mill, which I liked a lot, but I had to return them, because the tongue of the left boot moved outboards after about 30 minutes of wearing …
    Regarding the EVA in/midsole: yes, it probably adds comfort like a sneaker – but I don’t want to wear sneakers – I want to wear a boot 🙂 My concern is that they maybe noisy (sqeeking), and – you may get sweaty feet, due to less breathability… Your experience?

    • Hey if you don’t like the EVA sole — and I get it — the Vanguard went without it and feels more like a traditional boot. I didn’t have issues with sweatiness when I was wearing them in the desert 🙂 I can’t remember if they have a gusseted tongue, i don’t think so but I’ll check next time I find them!

  2. I appreciate your review on these boots.
    I have the captains in the copper and they look great. Your review was timely for my son because he was looking for his first pair of Thursday Boots and I think you convienced him on the Vangaurds in the copper.
    I really do love the Thursday Boot Co.
    great slection, great value, great craftmanship! If you ever get a chance, it would be great to see a review on their suede boots in either the captain or presidents. Thanks again for your great reviews…they’re very informative and well put together.

    • Great! Delighted I could have helped, David. Thanks for commenting. I get a lot of requests to review the same boots with different leathers, seems like most of the review would be the same so it wouldn’t be a great idea? But I might!

  3. What is your opinion of Vanguard vs The Captain for a near daily wear, versatile pair? I’m looking at darker brown chrome leather for both and can’t decide.

    • Personally I like the Captain’s EVA comfort strip, it makes it a bit more sneaker like. Remember to use shoe trees if you’re going to be wearing them a lot.

    • Those shoes are heavier and wider, I’d say Vanguard is more versatile. White’s, though, is my favorite of those three – it’s heavier but it really fits the foot well and they’re uber tough. I think they’re worth the money, the others maybe not so much.

  4. I am wondering what your view is on the necessity of a bellows tongue on a boot. Does it really effect the ability of the boot from keeping out water and debris?


  5. I was wondering how you think these boots would hold up in a warehouse. I work in a warehouse and am on my feet and on machines most of the day. I do not need a boot with a steel toe. Would you recommend them?


    • That’s a tough one Rob. The boots are tough, but the leather is a little thinner than like a Red Wing boot and the heel is a bit higher as well. I spend all day in these myself but I know that Red Wings are usually preferred for factory type work.

  6. Hey Nick. How much more narrow is the last compared to the Captain? A lot? Unfortunately one of the speed hooks tore out on my Captains and I’m trying to see if they’ll let me replace it with the Vanguard which has no speed hooks so no chance of it happening again. But I don’t want a boot that squeezes my feet.


  7. Nick, Michael,

    I had the speed hook fall out of my Captain’s too.

    My question is similar to Nick’s. I love my Captain’s but I was looking for a boot with a slightly more rounded toe. Do the Vanguard’s provide that? My Captain’s fit perfectly… if the Vanguard’s are slimmer I’m worried that despite their being a service boot they will still look to dressy for me.

    • No the Vanguard doesn’t have a more rounded toe, I mean if you order true to size it’ll fit just fine like your Captains. If you want a more round toe, maybe Red Wing Merchant would be the sweet spot?

  8. Dear Nick,
    Your Videos helped me quite a bit with shoe decisions. Thanks for all the work you do and information.

    I want to wear vanguard for daily work mostly (walking around, meetings, some factory, and outside frigid Minnesota weather). I plan to go for burnt copper. I love the distressed look, tough construction, long-lasting capability, and Easy-care. I am getting a black wingtip as well for actual dress boot (hope you could comment or do a video on it?).

    My questions are:
    (1) Is vanguard right pick for me for the above stated reasons?
    (2) How does this boot (burnt copper) work for business casual (buttoned-up shirt, jeans, and an occasional sport coat)?

    I’d greatly appreciate your response!

    • Yeah I think Vanguard it a good pick, Sagar! Burnt Copper is definitely a more casual type of leather, something like French Roast might be more appropriate if you’re thinking of wearing a sport coat a lot.

  9. Hello. Very helpfull review, nice work. Nice video also, I´m a subscriber now!
    I have another question about this boots, I own a pair of captains in a rugged Arizona leather and I really like the leather. I want to buy other pair with a lighter colour to use in warmer days. How does this boot in this colour feels in warmer weather? Do you know if the leather is the same in the burnt copper captains? Are the look of this model more rugged than de Captais? I think this would look very cool with t shirt and jeans in warmer days.
    Best regards

    • Hey João, glad you liked the review! Arizona Adobe is darker and redder than the Burnt Copper, which is sort of a light, sandy brown color. It’s also the ‘rugged and resilient’ leather so it feels very similar to the Arizona Adobe. I think Vanguards are a bit more rugged than Captains, yes — they’re just a little bit less sleek.

  10. Hello, great reviews, extremely useful, many thanks. I’m tempted by either the Vanguard or the Captain and am wondering – are they the same sort of height? On the Thursday site, the Captain looks just a touch higher and narrower at the ankle, with a sort of steeper curve on the eyelets. But I wonder if it’s a trick of the eye. Haven’t been able to find a visual side-by-side comparison of the two. Many thanks.


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